Privacy in Torchwood
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galadriel1010This is a trope that I find a bit disturbing, so I'm probably come across as judgey as a judge, but this is not a post to say “don't do this ever” so much as “please can you think about this and engage with me in discussion about it”.
The trope I'm thinking of is the one where Tosh hacks into the CCTV archives to retrieve deleted or protected footage of Jack and Ianto having sex.
There is no trope in Torchwood fanfiction that makes me backbutton faster. Even if the footage weren't password protected or deleted, that would be weird, but to deliberately and determinedly invade the privacy of not just your friends, but the man who saved you from UNIT's clutches?
That's not just creepy and a betrayal of their friendship, it's also illegal. The extent of the illegality is questionable, as there is no privacy law in England and Wales, but it would be comparable to the current case regarding the News of the World, who hacked into people's answering machines to get stories. As this is a current case, no one knows what the outcome will be (ETA: Four months later and it's bringing down the government), but if you want to look at the legal arguments surrounding it you can look at the arguments being put forwards in the media about that case and then subtract the celebrity element and put friendships in, for added squick.
Not that Torchwood cares about the legality of things like that all that much, but I suspect they would care more if it were their own privacy at question.
If we look at this trope from the start:
Stage 1: Jack and Ianto have sex at work. This could be because they're exhibitionists, or it could be because they live in the Hub. Going with option 2, they live in the Hub because someone has to be there to monitor the Rift and take the night callouts, so they are in the Hub, having sex there, so that Tosh and the others don't have to be.
Stage 2: They, being covered at all hours, delete the recorded footage of them having sex. Or maybe they just put it into a special folder and put a password on it so that they can access it later but no one else can get at it.. Either way, they ensure that their teammates can't get at it.
Stage 3: Tosh (or Gwen, but usually Tosh) breaks through the passwords or retrieves the deleted footage.
On what planet is that okay?
And to top it off, it's with Jack – the one who guards his secrets like Cerberus does the underworld, with lots of growling and not-fun biting if you get too close – and Ianto – the one who guards his secrets like... you can see where this is going.
So before you have Tosh oh-so-cleverly hacking through the layers of passwords, or carefully retrieving the deleted footage, please think about what she's about to do? And maybe how you'd feel if one of your friends – on whom your life often depended – was watching you having sex without your knowledge and consent.
Jack and Ianto have little enough privacy as it is. I'm sure Tosh wouldn't begrudge them what they tried to hold on to.
Tl;dr: There's a reason peeping Toms go to prison or get restraining orders.
The trope I'm thinking of is the one where Tosh hacks into the CCTV archives to retrieve deleted or protected footage of Jack and Ianto having sex.
There is no trope in Torchwood fanfiction that makes me backbutton faster. Even if the footage weren't password protected or deleted, that would be weird, but to deliberately and determinedly invade the privacy of not just your friends, but the man who saved you from UNIT's clutches?
That's not just creepy and a betrayal of their friendship, it's also illegal. The extent of the illegality is questionable, as there is no privacy law in England and Wales, but it would be comparable to the current case regarding the News of the World, who hacked into people's answering machines to get stories. As this is a current case, no one knows what the outcome will be (ETA: Four months later and it's bringing down the government), but if you want to look at the legal arguments surrounding it you can look at the arguments being put forwards in the media about that case and then subtract the celebrity element and put friendships in, for added squick.
Not that Torchwood cares about the legality of things like that all that much, but I suspect they would care more if it were their own privacy at question.
If we look at this trope from the start:
Stage 1: Jack and Ianto have sex at work. This could be because they're exhibitionists, or it could be because they live in the Hub. Going with option 2, they live in the Hub because someone has to be there to monitor the Rift and take the night callouts, so they are in the Hub, having sex there, so that Tosh and the others don't have to be.
Stage 2: They, being covered at all hours, delete the recorded footage of them having sex. Or maybe they just put it into a special folder and put a password on it so that they can access it later but no one else can get at it.. Either way, they ensure that their teammates can't get at it.
Stage 3: Tosh (or Gwen, but usually Tosh) breaks through the passwords or retrieves the deleted footage.
On what planet is that okay?
And to top it off, it's with Jack – the one who guards his secrets like Cerberus does the underworld, with lots of growling and not-fun biting if you get too close – and Ianto – the one who guards his secrets like... you can see where this is going.
So before you have Tosh oh-so-cleverly hacking through the layers of passwords, or carefully retrieving the deleted footage, please think about what she's about to do? And maybe how you'd feel if one of your friends – on whom your life often depended – was watching you having sex without your knowledge and consent.
Jack and Ianto have little enough privacy as it is. I'm sure Tosh wouldn't begrudge them what they tried to hold on to.
Tl;dr: There's a reason peeping Toms go to prison or get restraining orders.
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Date: 2011-03-11 03:05 am (UTC)Even though we are all voyeurs by reading about them doing it. LOLLLLLZ. :)
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Date: 2011-03-11 05:30 am (UTC)Voyeurism is a kink; in some way, all porn and erotica can be seen as a form of voyeurism, no matter what medium it's being conveyed in. Tosh just happens to be a fangirl stand-in by default -- Gwen's got too strong of an emotional attachment to Jack (either romantic or otherwise, depends on your leanings) and Owen's too... Well, male. (which sounds more terrible than I intend it t) So the task falls to Toshiko, lonely and desperate for love, or at least a good thrill.
We all love a good Mary Sue, and hate the bad ones.
... And that's my unasked for two cents on the subject.
On a personal note, some of the voyeur!Tosh fics I like involve Jantosh, which removes the squick but keeps the kink. It's all, ultimately, a matter of set-up; for example, I hate noncon, but have no problem with BSDM. It's a fine line.
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Date: 2011-03-11 10:37 am (UTC)I don't even know if I'm making sense right now, but that's fairly normal.
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Date: 2011-03-11 10:34 am (UTC)But yes, it's when it's a throwaway and used for humour, rather than for the kink, that it bothers me.