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I've spent the last year and a half in serious denail about Torchwood. I have Jacks and Iantos all over the place, in varying states of relationship settlement and happiness, different developments of Torchwood, different ways that the 456's visit was dealt with or not. It's been a great place to be, and I could stay there quite happily, hoping that the powers that be would get it and bring Ianto back and bring Torchwood back to Cardiff and I would be able to go back to it and go on with it.

Every single thing that I have seen about Miracle Day has damaged this, because Torchwood is moving on, but that's not... Torchwood. Torchwood was black and silver, dark but with sparkles, happiness and loyalty winning through despite everything. Children of Earth ripped that down and I chose to ignore it. Miracle Day is the show I loved as much as Torchwood was Doctor Who.

Since [livejournal.com profile] rm's awesome post and essay on grief and mourning for characters (which you should definitely read), I've been back through the spoilery reaction thread I was part of and actually laughed at our reactions. All the shiny shiny hope beforehand, the way we dismissed the rumours of Ianto's demise as ridiculous, the way I got drunk and squeed... the first time I can remember swearing on the internet when it all came crashing down and the denial with which we approached Day 5 (surely it couldn't be that nihilistic?) and then, at the end, the chorus of "they have to bring him back in the next series. They have to see that it makes sense."

We were right, and we were wrong. For Torchwood to continue as it was, it made sense for Ianto to come back. But what they did was ended the series in death and desperation...

And now they're starting a new show with the same name. Do I want to be a part of that?

Would you buy a ticket for a boat called The Titanic?

I can't give up hope that we'll get Torchwood back as it was. But I have to let go of how tightly I was holding it and grieve for the fact that I'll probably never see another new episode.

But get over it? Get over Torchwood?

Maybe. About 100 years after people stop writing Sherlock Holmes fanfiction.

Date: 2011-03-04 01:14 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] riftghost.livejournal.com
Thank you for writing this. I think I need to take a step back from the whole thing. I really wish they had made MD some sort of spinoff. It's not something I want to watch. The format bothers me too. I LIKE the 'monster of the week'. Lots of ideas, ways to look at things, interesting places and storylines.

It's not my Torchwood and others will laugh at that and call me names, but its not the show I want to watch.

I need to read more fanfics and hang out on twitter less. Being on twitter makes me cranky. I just hope when it comes on, it will be easy for me to ignore. The really evil part of me hopes that nobody watches.

Date: 2011-03-04 06:40 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] fiwen1010.livejournal.com
You will probably not be surprised to learn that I agree with you entirely. Apart from about needing to read more fanfiction, because I don't think it's actually possible for me to read more fanfiction...

Twittercan be a really cranky place to be, though. I'm fortunate that I have a whole range of different groups on my twitter, so I don't see much of what goes on.

Date: 2011-03-04 08:04 pm (UTC)
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I agree (except about twitter because I've never been on there so can't avoid it any more than I already am!) But MD isn't my Torchwood, there's nothing left of what I loved about the show - even Jack seems to have been largely neutered, he doesn't even seem to be the star of his own any more. It's all Gwen now, and I've never liked her anyway. Why should I watch something that holds no interest for me?

Date: 2011-03-05 08:14 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] fiwen1010.livejournal.com
This. And Gwen's probably going to lose everything that was cool about her, which was her Welshness and how very very normal she was. She'll be a Welshwoman in America, and therefore something exptic and weird and alien. Not normal any more.

Date: 2011-03-05 08:45 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] coldwater1010.livejournal.com
Gwen was always designed to stand in opposition to everyone else so the opposition may change, but I'm sure the results will be the same. To be honest I think Gwen stopped being 'normal' a long time ago. And even then her normality was written into the show in such a way as so that what she really became was special and exotic so I always felt they kind of defeated their purpose with her.

Date: 2011-03-05 08:57 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] fiwen1010.livejournal.com
This is possibly what annoyed me about her. She was so bloody normal, but she seemed to think she was so special. And so did everyone else. She was a bit like that girl who thinks she runs the class and has a lot of synchophants.

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