In which I am miserable and grieve for Torchwood

[galadriel1010]

I've spent the last year and a half in serious denail about Torchwood. I have Jacks and Iantos all over the place, in varying states of relationship settlement and happiness, different developments of Torchwood, different ways that the 456's visit was dealt with or not. It's been a great place to be, and I could stay there quite happily, hoping that the powers that be would get it and bring Ianto back and bring Torchwood back to Cardiff and I would be able to go back to it and go on with it.

Every single thing that I have seen about Miracle Day has damaged this, because Torchwood is moving on, but that's not... Torchwood. Torchwood was black and silver, dark but with sparkles, happiness and loyalty winning through despite everything. Children of Earth ripped that down and I chose to ignore it. Miracle Day is the show I loved as much as Torchwood was Doctor Who.

Since rm's awesome post and essay on grief and mourning for characters (which you should definitely read), I've been back through the spoilery reaction thread I was part of and actually laughed at our reactions. All the shiny shiny hope beforehand, the way we dismissed the rumours of Ianto's demise as ridiculous, the way I got drunk and squeed... the first time I can remember swearing on the internet when it all came crashing down and the denial with which we approached Day 5 (surely it couldn't be that nihilistic?) and then, at the end, the chorus of "they have to bring him back in the next series. They have to see that it makes sense."

We were right, and we were wrong. For Torchwood to continue as it was, it made sense for Ianto to come back. But what they did was ended the series in death and desperation...

And now they're starting a new show with the same name. Do I want to be a part of that?

Would you buy a ticket for a boat called The Titanic?

I can't give up hope that we'll get Torchwood back as it was. But I have to let go of how tightly I was holding it and grieve for the fact that I'll probably never see another new episode.

But get over it? Get over Torchwood?

Maybe. About 100 years after people stop writing Sherlock Holmes fanfiction.

Comments

[lawsontl.livejournal.com]

If there'd been an Internet when I was a teen, my life would have been ruined.

I was lucky that I didn't get my first access until 1988, only to the Bitnet at that. And, back then, we really did stop and think a bit before we posted certain things. In other areas, we were insanely naive... see my ID? That's my real last name and initials. But that ID has been online since 1988, so there's such a trail associated with it now, it's pointless to stop using it.

Anyhoo...

[fide-et-spe.livejournal.com]

Yes I did the same with my first online forum, used part of my name anyhow. But this is such a different place to that, so I didn't ever feel the need to use the same one.

It really occurred to me big time when there was a massive outcry about something a fan had said, it was to do with a conversation she had with JB. Massive wank with people writing long dissertations on their journals. I had seen the original thread at the time and thought nothing of it, because I figured JB is a grown man into his 40's, being paid thousands to attend these conventions and be nice to fans, as they say, he will laugh all the way to the bank. Plus, in fact what she had said was very very tame, he'd asked her at a signing if she was planning on watching series 4, she said "no", reported it back on a thread somewhere, and that was it. Anyhow when the wank ensued I checked her journal, she was 16!! I was just horrified that this poor kid was being so bullied, and the people writing all the essays were more than twice her age. I felt ashamed of the way grown ups act. I saw she posted that she had been crying with her Mum, who had actually been with her and assured her she hadn't been rude to JB (As I said, JB, poor baby, as if he cares). Anyhow it was only one example, but when I think of how silly I was at that age, and passionate about things, I could have made a massive fool of myself online, these kids aren't bad at all.

[fiwen1010.livejournal.com]

Totally with you on the Barrowman incident. What she did wasn't that rude, he's a big boy and he can cope with it. But she was already quite well known for what she was doing, and she became a figurehead for it for both sides.

And yeah, she was 16, and she is absolutely lovely. I met her at one of the Hubs and we chatted for a while, and she's so sweet. But she's passionate about something that people think she shouldn't be passionate about, so they don't care.

[fide-et-spe.livejournal.com]

Yes she isn't a fan I've ever had any interaction with, although actually I noticed her story for the recent LAS was absolutely gorgeous so I must read some of her stuff. Anyhow I think being a bit over the top, and passionate, is incredibly normal at that age, and it was an incident that really shocked me, poor girl. In fact I didn't even think she was rude, he asked her a straight question and she gave a straight answer.

I think there may be a cultural thing as well. I've noticed American fans will write these essays telling other fans "you don't get to do this" Well it's an expression that isn't used here, and makes little sense to me, because who are they to tell other people what to do? It's all so high and mighty, and also just really bizarre. There seemed to be a lot of that with that incident. The girl can do what she likes, I mean as long as she doesn't hit someone or whatever, even if I were to disagree with her, it's only my opinion, and she can have hers.

[fiwen1010.livejournal.com]

She's a really, really good writer, and I hope she's just going to get better.

There does seem to be a 'you're not allowed' going on, and quite a lot of hypocrisy following on behind it. It's depressing and annoying and makes me want to pour glasses of water over people.

[fiwen1010.livejournal.com]

I was 13 when I first made an arse of myself on the internet.

That was all of 7 years ago, so I have an excuse for not having learnt yet, right?