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'Miracle Gay'. Not big and not clever. More immature and damaging, actually. If I thought it were a comment on how over the top the gay jokes are and the fact that it comes across as vaguely homophobic, then maybe. But I really don't get that feeling, I think it's more of the 'it's so gay' that's hurting young LGBT people so badly.

Date: 2011-08-15 08:39 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] fiwen1010.livejournal.com
I actually love that about them. They're so adorable and stupid, and just the way I like my boys - far away and someone else's problem, preferably each other's.

But it's the effect it's had on their fans that pissed me off most. I did not need people on my Facebook friends list using it as a pejorative, and I defintiely did not need to be told that it's not offensive, they just hate the show.

I should ETA my post, but I cannot brain.

Date: 2011-08-15 09:02 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] beesandbrews.livejournal.com
Maybe it'll help, and maybe it won't, but it is possible for words to have more than one meaning. In this case 'gay' has the traditional meaning of 'happy', the older slang meaning of 'stupid' which is the way it's being used here and had nothing to do with sexual orientation (at least it didn't when I was a kid), and the contemporary prefered in some quarters meaning of homosexual.

(It's also possible, and this is pure speculation, that because the inevitable 'cause' of the miracle is going to be Jack and something to do with his past lover, that it's clumsy wordplay spoiler on the plot.)
Edited Date: 2011-08-15 09:03 pm (UTC)

Date: 2011-08-15 09:12 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] fiwen1010.livejournal.com
Yeah, I'd be happy with the dual meaning of happy and homosexual, but the 'bad' seems to have come from it meaning homosexual (in my experience, anyway) and it's hurting gay kids.

If the miracle is because of Jack I will... write that fic where Gwen turns herself into a stick insect and lives out the rest of her life in a jar on Jack's desk. Jack has suffered more than enough already, considering we've only had four series.

Date: 2011-08-15 09:53 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] beesandbrews.livejournal.com
I'd get a head start on it. Episode 7 airs on Friday and there's going to be a major reveal.

Date: 2011-08-15 09:59 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] fiwen1010.livejournal.com
I'll finish the honeymoon fic first for the happies (and the deadline) and then have it ready to go up on Saturday morning.

Date: 2011-08-15 10:02 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] beesandbrews.livejournal.com
Looking forward to it. :)

Date: 2011-08-15 09:04 pm (UTC)
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From: [identity profile] fide-et-spe.livejournal.com
I have mixed feelings about people on Facebook having a go at my opinions. One of my more geeky techie friends says it's not my page, I don't own it, it's a feed. So I tend to leave the comments unless they are offensive.

One of my relatives who works in film, so has hundreds of friends, made a comment on his fb page that his wife, who has a different surname, disagreed with. Someone weighed in against her with all these personal comments, really insulting her clearly trying to ingratiate themselves with him. So their teenaged daughter went on and said "stop insulting my mother on my father's Facebook page" That really did make me laugh, people are just so unthinking when they get on to social media sometimes.

However despite the issue of people maybe being rude to you on your own Facebook page, I totally agree with the cringing at fans using this as some sort of solidarity against MD. GDL may even love MD, I'm sure it means nothing about that show at all. I hate the way some fans keep embarrassing themselves. From AGA T shirts, to those SIJ manifestos, it's just mortifying.

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