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'Miracle Gay'. Not big and not clever. More immature and damaging, actually. If I thought it were a comment on how over the top the gay jokes are and the fact that it comes across as vaguely homophobic, then maybe. But I really don't get that feeling, I think it's more of the 'it's so gay' that's hurting young LGBT people so badly.

Date: 2011-08-15 12:32 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] sariagray.livejournal.com
Honestly, I think MD (and the portrayal of Jack, really) is more offensive than GDL's defacing of the poster. That was...childish, but I didn't find it damaging, per se. I totally took it as a remark on the constant barrage of "this show is gayed up! There is so much gay! Look at all of the gay sex Jack is having! Listen to how every episode has a mention of Jack being gay!" rather than any sort of derogatory thing. I mean, as [livejournal.com profile] beesandbrews has said, John Barrowman has outright commented on the apparent "gayness" of this show, which frustrates me to no end; why is that a selling-point!? And why has he forgotten who is character is supposed to be? But then, I'm always easily frustrated by him.

Jack was once an icon whose sexuality, while a part of him, took a backseat to his personality and drive and history. Now, not only has the sexuality been altered, its been brought to the forefront as some sort of caricature, a stereotype that doesn't even make sense considering his past (well, future-past). While I can take or leave Jack, he was brilliant in that regard, I'll give you that much. I liked that aspect of his character, and I hate the constant media portrayal of gay men (and, apparently, omnisexual ones) that they're using in MD. Sexuality is no more a personality trait than, say, hair color or skin tone. They missed the mark on that this season.

As far as what they're doing with Rex, it reminds me a bit of Owen. The difference is that Owen wasn't homophobic (that was pretty much nixed in the first episode - homophobic men generally don't shrug and make out with other men, as far as I know) in the slightest, just a...well, Owen. At least, that's how I took him. He was more apt to challenge Jack's ridiculous stories for their over-the-top nature and the bravado behind them, rather than who the parties involved were. And I think that's what they're trying to achieve to some extent, but it's falling flat.

I don't know that Rex is actually homophobic. Or, if he is, I guess I mean I don't know that he's supposed to be.

So. That's my two cents, then.

Date: 2011-08-15 12:47 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ms-bekahrose.livejournal.com
I feel dreadful, because reading my comment, I've not made it clear that I am talking about the comments I saw on facebook (I'm going back to edit that in a tick).

I agree that the defacing of the poster was childish, and admittedly, I had a chuckle at GDL's antics, but I just wanted to say I agree - especially in regards to the Owen/Rex parallels.

I disliked Owen until I started reading fan fic, but he never once came across as a homophobe - at least not to me. Rex on the other hand... the insinuation is there, that he is, but it's never outright stated, so for all we know, he could be a live and let live kinda guy, but thinks Jack's jokes are in poor taste?

Date: 2011-08-15 04:56 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] fiwen1010.livejournal.com
I hated RTD's version of Owen. He got better under other writers, but it's getting past how awful he was in the first episode that's the problem.

Date: 2011-08-15 04:47 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] fiwen1010.livejournal.com
Yeah, the show (what I've heard of it, I'm still not watching it, and partly because of this now) is much worse than what Gareth did. I just don't like the message that he's sent out by doing it and the fact that his fans have picked it up like they're 8 and in the schoolyard.

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