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galadriel1010 ([personal profile] galadriel1010) wrote2010-12-28 04:55 pm
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Gwen, an apology

A few of my friends recently have posted in their journals about the amount of anti-Gwen vitriol that they've seen, and wondering why there is so much.

So I, being me, replied, explained why I didn't like her and tried to join the discussion.

I didn't realise it was a rhetorical question. Nor did I realise that there's been a lot of anti-Gwen stuff around, because the fandom places I hang out in are Twitter and my flist. This does not cover any of the major non-fic communities or AGA. I had no idea it was going on. So when I saw stuff in my flist asking why people dislike Gwen... I thought they were honestly asking.

Being lonely, bored and procrastinating, I felt like answering it.

So, basically, I didn't know the context, and I apologise for joining in where I shouldn't have. Apparently the fandom is full of Gwen hate that people on my flist don't want to see. My flist is mostly full of people who like Gwen, and I keep feeling like I have to justify my dislike. I shouldn't feel like I have to, and I shouldn't try. So I'll stop.

ETA: I don't think most of the people I'm apologising to are actually friends with me, so they won't see this.

[identity profile] ms-bekahrose.livejournal.com 2010-12-28 10:59 am (UTC)(link)
Sorry to be jumping in, but...

The other thing that occurs to me is that there is never an outcry about the fans who are into Jack/Gwen and bash Ianto in a way that I think is frankly weird.

I think we read the same thing, or at least something that is similar. I was hauled over the coals recently for not having enough Gwen in a Tosh-centric fic, and found out later that one of the people who accused me of bashing Gwen, wrote a fic, where, not just the fic, but all of the reviews bashed Ianto *and* GDL, I just... sometimes the hypocrisy makes me flail like a flailing thing...
ext_41651: Ianto shiny with mobile (gun on Ianto)

[identity profile] fide-et-spe.livejournal.com 2010-12-28 11:22 am (UTC)(link)
Oh that is quite an amazing amount of hypocrisy, and I really hate it when they bash the actors themselves. I mean not for their acting, because that is a matter of opinion, but it's a bit scary and stalkery when it goes beyond that.

Having said I hadn't seen it, I just came across all the stuff this post is about. Like I say, people really do take it all way too seriously. I like discussions and meta, but it's when people get personal that it becomes unhealthy, which is what bothered me when I discovered there is a whole lot of Ianto bashing out there. Now in a way, it's like the AGA, if people want to keep the bashing to their journals or comms, fine, and to be fair the Ianto bashers do this, but as you said, there is no need for it to then go onto your story.

[identity profile] fiwen1010.livejournal.com 2010-12-29 04:07 am (UTC)(link)
I think I know who you mean... There's someone who's pretty famous for it anyway, and mostly ignored because it's easier than engaging.