Am I being over sensitive?

[galadriel1010]

'Miracle Gay'. Not big and not clever. More immature and damaging, actually. If I thought it were a comment on how over the top the gay jokes are and the fact that it comes across as vaguely homophobic, then maybe. But I really don't get that feeling, I think it's more of the 'it's so gay' that's hurting young LGBT people so badly.

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[lawsontl.livejournal.com]

The one thing that makes me read what you say about the panel and NOT cringe, is that John's usually the first in line to make fun of himself. And they've done this same sort of ribbing whenever he's there, too. He gives it back, and they have a wonderfully teasing dynamic amongst themselves. They turn into a bunch of silly boys together, which makes them quite fun. I just miss John being in it with them.

And there's a whole lot of gay folk who don't get it, either. Being a Kinsey 6 doesn't suddenly grant you understanding that no one else on the scale can have. The only thing that keeps me from flat out turning it off based just on the "gay" stuff is the fact that Jack Doesn't Care. And he usually just throws it back. If he were to start questioning himself, I'd probably throw something at the TV>

[aviv-b.livejournal.com]

I think what bothers me the most is that its 'heroic' characters that mostly spout this stuff. Gwen (the only thing standing between humanity and doom), Andy and Johnny (the working class heros who fight back at the evil govt, Rex (who I don't think is meant to be a nice guy, but WTF). But no else does, do they? (Not watching so I may not be aware).

[fiwen1010.livejournal.com]

I really, really disliked Gwen for not standing up for Ianto in CoE. She had recovered herself (msotly) in my eyes, and then Clem called him queer, Ianto was clearly offended and she laughed it off. I like to believe that Ianto would have given her decaff for the rest of her Torchwood employment had he survived.

[fiwen1010.livejournal.com]

That's actually one of the things I loved about Torchwood, particularly the cast. I have quite an antagonistic sense of humour (and personality in general, really), and that sort of bullshitting affectionately is really comfortable for me. Children of Earth and, from what I've heard as a biased reader of blogs, Miracle Day, both depend on a much more slap-stick kind of humour, except not. In the first two series it was funny because everyone argued back. Now it's supposed to be funny because they don't.

[beesandbrews.livejournal.com]

I'd link if I could find it, but the thread is a mile long. There's a good discussion on who_anon about the use of humor in series 1 and 2 Torchwood vs later. The difference being in the first two you were laughing with the characters, and in the later ones you're supposed to laugh AT the characters which is a more mean spirited type of humor. But that goes with objectfication and so on which COE and MD are rife with.

[fiwen1010.livejournal.com]

Yeah, I was in there somewhere. Came to it late on account of sleep or something, but it was a really interesting discussion. Whatever the haters say, the Torchwank has kept the meme busy and very interesting lately.